Friday, July 30, 2010

Immigration

Here are my thoughts on some work to solve the immigration issues across the United States today. This is not a complete answer, nor do I really expect it ever to be complete.
Before we begin, some definitions.:
Deportation in this sense is to mean, transported to the consulate of the home country and that consulate shall arrange immediate transportation back to their native land, with given regard to those who are seeking political asylum within the United States as allowed by our current laws and treaties.
“American-born family” in this sense includes parents, sisters, brothers, children and grandchildren, in whole or part.
“United States” refers to all States, the District of Columbia, and all territories and possessions of the United States of America.
“Employer” refers to any company, entity, or person doing business within the united States, it’s possessions or territories.

First, there should be a continuous effort to stop illegal border crossings. Mobilize the National Guard to provide much needed resources to the Border Patrol. Allow Border Patrol and National Guard unfettered access into all areas around the borders, (northern, southern; and all islands and territories/possessions of the United States), working to minimize ecological damage without reducing enforcement; and maintaining at all times an adequate level of force to reduce the number of illegal crossings. In all states, territories, and possessions, use the National Guard to support INS in unannounced, random visits to those types of companies that rely on undocumented or illegally documented workers, such as hotel, agriculture, manufacturing, packing/processing rents, plants, fast-food, convenience store and construction industries.

This is not a problem confined to the American mainland. There are factories (sweatshops) operating outside of American law in our possessions and territories. Therefore, these “U.S. P. & T.” areas should also be working on the same immigration laws. (The needed discussion of the working conditions in these U.S. P & T will need to be discussed at another time.) Second, require all employers to use E-Verify beginning today; establishing fast-track Federal judicial hearings for employers found to not be using E-Verify. A set of penalties need to be established, such as removing any federal, state or local business contracts and dealings with those companies that cannot prove total compliance with E-Verify. These penalties should have levels of increasing financial hardship on those companies refusing to comply with e-verify, up to and including highest levels of management denial. These penalties should include the possibility of in-home detention of management that condones and allows illegal hiring, as well as fines based upon the number of illegal hires. While I understand the argument that E-Verify is not a perfect system, it is a good strong logical beginning; it can be improved as situations arise that show cause for improvement.

But what to do when illegal immigrants are caught? Initial, immediate steps should include fingerprinting, DNA testing/recording, and photographing those individuals. Those caught at initial illegal entry should be immediately deported after these identifying steps have been taken. Those guilty of transporting humans illegally into this country should be subjected to trials for human trafficking, with federal penalties established and enforced. Traffickers should not be deported until they have been tried and punished in accordance with American laws. Concurrent human, drug and firearm trafficking should be tried and punished simultaneously, with maximum penalties invoked. Anyone requiring medical or hospitalization should be treated then deported. Children born to pregnant women intercepted at entry should not be granted American citizenship.

For those individuals found to be in the Untied States illegally for less than 3 years, but not caught when initially crossing the borders, humane and reasonable considerations should be given. If found, through the initial fingerprinting, DNA testing and photographs to have been linked to crimes committed while in the United States illegally, they should be tried; if found guilty, the individuals should punished according to American justice; the same justice as would be applied to any American citizen. Adults found not linked to crimes committed here, and who have no American-born children, should be deported immediately; those with American-born children should be given an opportunity to choose between family deportation and the ability to become naturalized American citizens within a set time period, while being on probation until said citizenship in established.
Those caught who have been here more than 3 years should be given a probationary time to become naturalized American Citizens. Reasonable credit and allowance should be given to those who have been in the service of the Untied States while here

How do we pay for this mass mobilization of resources to cover the subject? The fines imposed and collected from businesses failing to obey the laws of our country should be allocated to this effort. The balance will have to be come from taxes; however, when you raise the level of income by not allowing sub-standard wages to be paid, (as a result of the wage-earner being undocumented) you will raise the level of taxes being legally collected. Initially, however, this effort will be very costly to the American public. But it is the American Public who is raising this hue and cry over undocumented peoples.
Fines imposed for being inside American territory illegally are a subject of further discussion.
Could this draconian type measure work? Probably not without some tweaking; however it is at least an outline of a manner to stop the flow if illegal immigration. It is not a cure-all; and it is my belief this issue will be with the United States as long as we continue to be a free country.

I am looking forward to all comments!

13 comments:

  1. Bob -

    Your thoughts are very well written and although I appreciate your viewpoint - I totally disagree. This is why you invited me to read your blog right?

    I think anyone who wants to enter this country who does not have a criminal background should be allowed in.

    ALL but one set of my Great-Grandparents were immigrants and they didn't have to apply for admission to the USA - of course they had to go through Ellis Island (or whatever preceded it) and risked being sent back if there were health problems - or they were considered "undesirable".

    What is wrong with allowing people to enter our country and work for the American Dream. I do think they should learn English as the common language - my ancestors did - but you and I have also had some opportunity to travel the world - and how many times have we been required to speak anything but our native language???? I can only think of one time I had to do this - and it was while visiting elderly family members in Norway - and believe me I wasn't as good as most native Spanish speakers trying to speak English.

    I look forward to further debate - although my writings aren't nearly as eloquent as yours.

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  2. I agree with MargotK, at some point all of our families were immigrants. As for the illegals here this is an idea round them up put them in empty FEMA trailers and have them work by cleaning up the gulf and rebuild N.O. Then required them to take classes so they can become citizens. I love this country and because of of acceptance of immigrants it has helped us to build this great Nation

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  3. MKB.. Thank you for your post, I look forward to more! Your family, and mine, went through Ellis Island and did run the risk of being rejected. They had to do this to enter the country. Those who enter the country illegally should not be accepted into our workforces, to access our services. If you want the American Dream, work for and earn it, in the same way as my Grandfather Hartmann did..the item he was most proud of was his family's citizenship papers, framed and displayed on the living room wall. (P.S. he also dropped the final "n" on the family name! LOL)

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  4. Further commentary, particularly sparked by Margokbird. the first "Naturalization Act" was pased in 1795, and defined natural born, native born and naturalized citizens. It's inital concept was written by Thomas Jefferson. So, you can see this is not a new issue for this country. The issue hopefully being debated here is the entry into this country of those who are not on visas, or on path to becoming citizens. I have no arguement with anyone wishing to come to the US, as Margo's relatives did, and pass through the current model of Ellis Island, in serch of work, prosperity, and citizenship. I have issue with those who enter this country without making that same stop, without the desire to become active taxpaying citizens of the United States, burt more importantly, with the employers of those undocumented individuals, indeed, the bulk of my discussion is that those employers who hire undocumented individuals are doing so in violation of our laws, and should be punished.
    Side note. I use the term of 3 years, it may be that the current law is 5 years. The statutes relative to the crime of hiring undocumented individuals should be writeen, or re-written, as "strict libiality laws" as is the case in most international law and treaties.
    (A strict liability law means that ..you did it, it is illegal, pay the fine... )

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  5. My father's an immigrant. My grandparents both went through Ellis Island. Ellis island served the purpose of allowing those who wanted to come to the US and improve their lives to do so. A checkpoint for lack of a better word . And something WE controlled. We don't have anything like that now. All legal immigration must be done by paperwork. By applying and the waiting list is long. Can take years. Then, once here, if you have the ability to apply for a green card, that too takes up to 3 years and you have to be sponsored. So they walk in. The problem is they don't assimulate into the American lifestyle. When our forefathers came into the country they tried very hard to be American. Their traditions stayed at home. They learned the language, our customs but what I see happening now is they want to live as they did in their countries in areas that are purely hispanic or asian, muslim but with all the advantages of being here. You can't have it both ways because it separates us a union. Yes, we are all immigrants but the problems our forefathers faced and how they dealt with them doesn't even apply to today. As for dealing with the problem, I'm open to any suggestions because as severe as the problem is nothing has worked but I'm not sure anything is being done either. Too much money involved in having them here working. Lower wages, cheaper produce, but at the same time our social services are stretched to the limit. No one really wants to solve it because of the money involved if we got rid of these workers . Did you know the largest amount of money entering Mexico is by Mexican immigrants sending money home. The Mexican government even benefits! And really, don't you think if our government wanted we would solve this problem instead of pathetic attempts to guard a huge border with a handful of men??

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  6. Interestingly enough I agree with the other posts today - however, I think we have created a lot of the problems - we (as in US and State) governments have allowed undocumented immigrants to access the welfare system (for lack of a better word). I like the suggestion of allowing them to live in FEMA trailers and helping clean up the Gulf oil spill or helping restore NO - and pay them what they deserve - if they work they get paid - if they don't they won't. You're right our ancestors did have to come over here and earn their keep. I do not have a problem if they want to live in their own communities. My Swedish Great -Grandparents lived in southwestern Minnesota and lived among other swedish people - spoke the Swedish language at home, and English when they had too - went to a Swedish Church - but.... this is important by the time they were grandparents the grandchildren had assimilated into the American culture. As a matter of fact my Swedish mother married my Norwegian father, and since the two cultures did not mix - my mother's parents almost stroked out when she was married in the Norwegian Church (of the same denomination!) - I was baptized in the Norwegian church on May 7, 1948 - and the service (and baptismal) certificate are in Norwegian -= My Great-grandparents joined that church in the 1890's and they did not discontinue the Norwegian service until the 1950'S. Not only that, but I went to a college started by Norwegian Lutheran immigrants and in 1970 when I was a senior - we still sang the Norwegian National Anthem at opening convocation! Do we need to guard our borders? Possibly - but I think it's much more important to guard how we award benefits. I still say - let the people come, but if they want to live her - let them earn their keep. I live in Rose Park - that terrible west-side neighborhood - yet I love it here and much of the reason is because of the vast cultural diversity!

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  7. Wow, good conversation! Margobird, You were born in 1948, and your scandanavian parents obviously some time before that. Keeping your heritage is important. I try and keep mine. But a lot has changed since then. Yes, go to church and worship whom ever, in your language but you still need to assimulate in the American lifestyle. And having bilingual education divides us. I know so many children from immigrant families, born here but can hardly speak english but this is another subject. As for having illegal immigrants cleaning up the Golf...... after its finished, then what.... do they stay in FEMA trucks until the next disaster? Does that mean they can stay? At what point do we say "no". Its too crowded. Does this mean they are now entitled to health care? benefits? vacation? Something must be done but I still don't know what. I'll get back to you on that one!

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  8. I just have one point African Americans were brought here by force and even though intergrated. Some very "black" areas exsist. I mean if we had WET White American Televison can you imagine> But yet there is BET Black American Television. WE all hold onto our roots I don't truly believe anyone mainstreams. If we did, where would the great thinkers, artists, a leaders come from?

    You rely on that upbring of yours. My family is Dutch German and Native American. Thur each of this I have brought things to other people and they to me. I don't believe these people don't want to share. Yes they do have their communities. Ever been to little Italy or China Town? They exist but also share and therefore making us all the while a little more tolerant of each other and enlightend

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  9. Ringo - you raise good points. I don't think anyone is "entitled" to anything other than what is guaranteed in our constitution. And... this may be controversial = I think we all need to take care of each other - not the government - which may lead to another topic - national health care - but.... I truly believe that if a person comes here and is allowed in, doesn't have to sneak in, by and large they will be motivated to look for work and find it. Children of immigrants barely speak English? fair enough - but I think the problem stems from lack of education - again another topic we can debate - Bob want to write a treatise on the sad state of public education???? The problems are enormous and we aren't going to solve them overnight - but somehow we must eliminate all of the red tape and allow many, many more folks entry to the USA.

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  10. Powerfulblonde, I agree.......WET TV.....but my point is why have any divided TV at all.. oh gosh, this is going to sound so trite....one of my best friends is black. I went to her house years ago and was presented with Ebony magazine, I think its things like this, no matter how small you might think, all added up, make a difference. Not only was Ebony magazine a black publication but it is also has hints of being anti -white. All these things make a difference in keeping the divide, divided. I love Chinatown and little Italy. I don't want to loose the exposure of other cultures. Its what makes us the US. I love my families customs but I don't think anything is being done to help us mingle. I have a hispanic worker who is really special, has been with me for 10 years. She raised her children here, they went to school here but in Spanish. They hardly speak english, and have not taken advantage of higher education so they might as well be in there own countries. the daughter had a child at 14 and is married...BUT again not the original subject........ having immigrants screened before or even when they're here is not enough. I'm happy if they don't have a criminal record but that doesn't help the problem of our stressed social services and I'm paying for it!!! I earn too much money to get any of the benefits they are entitled to. Free health care?? I had surgery not to long ago and I was $8000 out of pocket WITH Health insurance!

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  11. I think the problems that we have identified go much deeper than illegal immigrants - I think we have to solve a number of other social ills before we can even begin to solve the immigration issue and we need to start with welfare reform and move on from there - don't get me started. Many many years ago, my parents managed some rental property and I will never forget a family came to look at one of the units. When they indicated they would most likely sign the lease, my father said wouldn't you like to know how much the monthly rent is? the response was "Oh, no, welfare will take care of it". These people reproduced - and I'm willing to bet their descendants are still on the public dole - No wonder taxes, health insurance with high deductibles and everything else is so costly - we can't blame illegal immigrants for causing all of the problems!

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  12. MKB..a treatise on the sad state of public education? I can and will I am sure. Right now, after the wonderful discussions here, I am working on a follow up piece! As long as my computer holds out...and my arm! Please, please continue the discussion...I am overjoyed to see and read it!

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